Well, waht we have is a terribly flawed situation...

Poll after poll tells politicans that the American people are fed up with "politics"... The Repubs have been deft at turning everything the Dems attempt to do as "politics"... If you think the Swift Boat Liars havd a field day wtih John Kerry you ain't seen nuthin' if the Dems push this too hard...

And what screwed this up was the impeachment of Bill Clinton... It left a very sour taste in alot of moderates minds... Moderates are the new swing vote block and the Dems know it... So do the Repubs and the moderates are telling pollsters t6hey are sick of politics...

This has nothing to do with the crimes that the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Peral/Wolfowitz War Machine have perpetrated on the planet... Those are a different subject...

If we look back on the discussions that have occured here in Mudville since the Mad-Dash-to-Iraq we see that there isn't any new territory... The facts are out there... Even if the House began "serious" impeachemnt proceedings today, the Repubs could filibuster and filibuster and use parlimentary manuvers to hold the Dems off well into next year...

Plus, think about this... There are a lot of Denms in the House who have been elected from Red States... It would be suicide for them...

And let's look at this in a differnt light... We have serious problems that need fixes... As Ron Paul has so aptly pointed out we have a foriegn policy that if continued witl take us down... We have a serious problem with distribution of wealth, health care, global warming...

I'd rather see the energy spent on those problems than trying to get Bush and/or Cheney out a couple months earlier...

Make no bones about it, these problems will be shoved aside if impeachement takes hold...

Will impeaching either or both of these creeps get US out of Iraq one day earlier??? I doubt it...

If the dems wanted to get US out of Iraq they could have done it by suspending the rules ("The Nuclear Option") and the war would be over...

So for my anti-war, anti-Bush, anti-Cheney friends here, I'm 110% with you on just how screwed up these creeps have gotten our country... There is absolutley no difference in our thinking here...

But these creeps are going to do what they are going to do and the only way to stop them is for the Dems to out flank them in framing of issues... In this climate a frontal attack is not the smartest idea...

Yeah, I'm one of those who most folks think should be the strongest behind such an attack but, if I'm a chess player and want to win, or if I'm in fist fight and want to win, flailing ain't gonna get me there... That's is my opinion...

Now with that said, if this movement picks up steam, I'd like the opportunity to revisit my thinking, regarless of my cureent opinion as to the wisdom of a frontal attack on Bush and/or Cheney...

B~