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Thread #106062   Message #2194094
Posted By: CarolC
14-Nov-07 - 11:12 PM
Thread Name: BS: Another dictator to turn on the U.S.
Subject: RE: BS: Another dictator to turn on the U.S.
So not only do you seem to subscribe to the belief that Hezbollah mean Israel no harm

Please show me where I have said this.

perish the thought, you also seem to think that the concept of martyrdom is some sort of major stumbling block and a complete and utter anathema to its members

When people commit suicide terrorism, they do it for what they consider to be the benefit of other people... namely the people in their home countries who are living under a military occupation. If they commit an act, such as lobbing a nuclear bomb only a few miles away from the people they consider themselves to be fighting for, they will be killing those very people. I certainly do not think that the concept of suicide martyrdom consists of killing all of the people they consider themselves to be fighting for. The fact that you can't see this says a lot about just how seriously we ought to take your analyses of anything at all.

Regardless of whether or not you think the government of Iran is trying to build nuclear weapons, the fact that, if they are doing so, they are doing so in secret is proof that they are not playing nuclear blackmail, because nuclear blackmail is when people make threats to use nuclear weapons against other countries if those other countries don't comply with their wishes. And since my comments were in response to beardedbruce's accusation against Iran that they are engaging in nuclear blackmail, your post is 100% irrelevant to anything I have said.

You have no knowledge of nuclear weapons, from your comments. There are some very good USArmy manuals as to the range of destruction and radiological effects, for various kilotonnage ratings. Some of us have read them. You obviously have not.

Even if I had read them, I wouldn't believe them for a minute. However, if Hezbollah used such weapons against Israel, they would hardly destroy Israel. Anything that is capable of destroying Israel would have devastating effects on the air and water in Lebanon as well.

Right. And the US has stated it will not use nuclear weapons first- but YOU have stated that they will.

Some members of the US government have said we will not use nuclear weapons first, but others have openly advocated using them first (Dick Cheney being one of them).

" They are entirely within their legal rights to have such a program according to the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty. "

No they are not. They have violated the NPT numerous ways, and the UN has been demanding that they cease their present programs.


They may not be entirely compliant in the way they are implementing their program, but they are entirely within their legal rights to have such a program. The UN is demanding that they cease doing something that they are legally entitled to do.