Sorry Zander, have to take issue with you over the 'moron' bit :-) Look out for Harding's 'Bombers' Moon' album -- yeah he's a bit irritating at times, but knows his stuff, at least the post-Revival (wouldn't expect much response from him on a question about Cecil Sharpe ;-)Good question though -- where is Jim Lloyd? Perhaps he's not doing much -- he's retired! Spot of gardening maybe. Incidentally, was he any relative of Bert (A L )?