Me too but I find the word "swiftboating" to be very offensive to veterans and always ask that people use another word. They were proud people who did a very difficult job in Vietnam. I didn't have the energy or desire to track who did or said what in the Kerry case, but I assume everyone on all sides is telling the truth as they saw it. Imagine if you substituted the word nursing..or cooking..or engineering...to describe what you think is not a nice thing to do. Those swiftboaters were Johnny on the spot offering their considerable services in the Katrina disaster. And as a veteran I will say that it is not really likely that you will get dozens or was it even hundreds of people to get together and lie in a very public arena. So please reconsider the use of that word in anything less than a respectful way. mg