i'm thinking that the bit about the holy wells ( susan of dt ) sounds good.it works for me anyway. and the point about wife not having to be a wife as we use the word ( malcom douglas ), thats good to. how usher fits into it, i dont see. the name my be important or not. might be an actual place or not. i still have a feeling that that name may have evoked a image in a different time in a place other than here i am ( michigan ). marty