>>1. The fact tah we knew about it was not the same as allowing his posession: The UN was derilict in failing to insist on the destruction of prohibited material.<<

But the State Department said it was NOT what they were looking for. So it had nothing to do with Bush's accusation that 687 had been breached. He could not have been talking about that stuff--whatever it was. I had heard it was old munitions and much of it was past its shelf life. They knew about it and it was not an issue. It was not what the US govt was looking for or talking about during the run-up of the war.

It's a non-issue, guy.

>>Pray tell me what of the list you gave have ever been proven to be wrong? IN ALL CASES Saddam failed to show credible evidence that the prohibited items had been destroyed.<<

According the CIA, he was failing to show he had any to destroy and they attached memos to that effect on the NIE that Bush & Cheney used to concoct their invasion. The UN NEVER endorsed Bush's decision to invade. He invaded when it became obvious the UN would not endorse it once the inspections were complete. The UN obviously never believed Hussein possessed all that weaponry or they wouldn't have made clear that 1441 did not give the US the right to invade Iraq. The UN obviously never thought an invasion, occupation or war was necessary. Bush muttered out a pack of lies at SOTU 03 designed to scare the public and intimidate Congress into falling in line with him. It is an impeachable offense.

>>Fine. I will acknowledge that YOU have declared Bush to be vindicated by the discovery of those prohibited missiles and weapons systems.<<

I don't know that they found any missiles at all. I have no idea what they found. But I know very well what they didn't find. They didn't find 25,000 liters of anthrax, 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin, 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agents and 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical weapons and this is apart from the tragically sad belief in Saddam's mobile weapons labs. And we know the 16 words are a blatant lie based on the already-debunked "Italian Letters" just as we know Mohammed Atta did not meet with Iraqi agents in Prague. In short, they found nothing.

It was such an incredible case of wishful thinking that I am convinced Bush is not rooted in reality very firmly. He walked us into this shithole situation based on propaganda and deception from the likes of Curveball, Ahmad Chalabi and the INC. He believed his own propaganda. One of their informants mentioned by Bush in his speech couldn't locate the secret plant where he claimed to have worked when he was taken back to Iraq in 2005 to verify his story. There was nothing.