Thanks, Paul, for setting the record straight on the giant 2 FOOT sewer gators.. I'm sure they are really dangerous to the 2 FOOT Sewer inspectors, too! It is always amazing how much knowledge one gains here with out Mudcat friends. I am sorry, however, about the Cookie expose'..I HAVE that recipe & it's hard to keep passing it on with a straight face, now!... If anybody wants it, just email me on the Mudcat page, or at Loomis@EspressoCom.Com.. I really enjoyed this thread..even though we may have strayed from music a bit..