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Thread #106685   Message #2208038
Posted By: Janie
04-Dec-07 - 12:16 AM
Thread Name: BS: There aren't any Gods (not even Jesus)
Subject: RE: BS: There aren't any Gods (not even Jesus)
Thanks for that link, Amos.

As I've followed this thread, I keep thinking that it is no more, and no less, than a reflection of the the dynamic that exists within the duality of freedom - control.    I know virtually nothing about any of the sciences, but my impression is this duality is inherent in all the known processes and systems of the known universe. It seems to me, (and this may simply be my ignorance,) that this duality, and the paradox it embodies are an essential component of all the dynamic systems that make up creation, whether one is considering particles, molecules, genomes and amoeba, or stars, solar systems and universes.

If all that existed was One (and one what doesn't matter, all that matters is that whatever it is, it is all there is, there is only one of it, and it is made up of only One - no component parts or internal systems) then the freedom-control duality would not exist. Add something else, anything else, and the duality and the accompanying paradox are there. It seems to me to be pure logic.

Religion is not faith. Faith is not spirituality. Concepts of God or Not-God or No-God, are not religion, faith, or spirituality.   Beliefs are anything one accepts as fact or as true without proof that it is. No man or woman operates in the world without beliefs. We all have beliefs about ourselves, others and the world that largely, and often unconsciously, determine how we interact with others and the rest of creation. I don't know about the rest of you, but I have yet to encounter any human being who moves through the world and interacts with other people in such a way as to suggest they are completely free of all cognitive distortions, or completely aware of all the ways their cognitive distortions interfere with their perceptions.   

Thus the tenet, common in the social sciences, that what one believes to be true has real consequences.