....and folks wonder why I have made myself scarce. I wish I had found this when it was started, as I would have closed it forthwith. A troll makes a statement bound to make the puppets dance, and they, quite predictably, do just that.

What I believe, or do not believe, is my business. It will be conducted in the privacy of my own processes. Whether I am a believer, an agnostic, or atheist; whether I live an ethical life or not, is not what this thread is about. It is about you all beating a dead horse, without regard to which side of the divide you fall on.

Those that suggest that they have never met people of faith that acted on their convictions for the good of all, are idiots and bigots. How many examples do you want? Ever heard of the Berrigans? How about the good Sisters who went to jail for smearing blood on the missile silos? How about Mother Theresa who could care less what your religion was, or even if you had one? She just cared for those abandoned, or ignored by you ivory tower idiots. What you do with Mohatma? How about Father Flanigan, who didn't care about anything but living up to his vows to help kids without regard to religion, or race. This was heady and dangerous stuff in the early twentieth century. We could use folks like him today. Among Mudcatters, some of the most ethical and faith filled folks I have met are Pagan. They are excellent examples to hold up to your kids of how one should walk on this path.

Those that suggest that atheists, secularists, and agnostics don't live ethical, value filled lives, are likewise idiots and bigots. The list would be too long to fill, of the public figures. But right here on our own Mudcat, of those of you I have met, Bill D and Amos spring immediately to mind as people that are as good an example of caring, ethical and responsible people as one could find. They present their views in a respectful way, and challenge one's own ideas in the way that good discourse should. I see a number of you taking the secular view, and a number of you taking the faith community view, that need to take a lesson from them.

Back to the swamp, and my hill. Anyone seen my trusty Low D whistle? I think we need to get away from the noise and make some music for Orion....

Mick