This is very difficult stuff. We all struggled with it on my therapy course.

Mcgrath, you demonstrate some of the probs.

"taking responsibility" - I was careful not to say that but "take THEIR (or your) responsibility", a different thing.

The line of taking responsibility for others is very dodgy - where's their own responsibility, if you take it over? You can render others helpless or irresponsible for taking resp. for them. It depends, yes we parents do/did for our children.

As for the technology point, if those societies were truly civilised, then the technology would be used in a civilised manner. it hasn't been. So the status of advanced nations as civilised I question and doubt.


"To hell with culture as a sauce on an otherwise-stale fish." (Sculptor Eric Gill)

Ivor