Taking responsibility for someone is, for me,(or should i say FOR ME?), quite , quite different from acting responsibly towards someone.

So I think it illegitimate to have them mean the same thing.

"Maybe we'd do better to go back to using "civilised" just to mean a culture where cities are important. Used that way it becomes pretty self-evident there are no grounds for assuming a connection with "humane" behaviour. "

That seems to me playing with meanings to get the result you want. You thereby give yourself a get-out for the inhumanity at the heart of 'advanced societies. I'm not prepared to do so. Even if it gives me (or should I say ME?) a massive ptblem in wishing to defend culture.

Several answers, Ebbie.

One obvious one - we're not all Saggies !!

Others, fear, cowardice, wanting to keep the job, raking their fantiasies of what the outcome would be for reality, wanting to be thought 'nice', having been crushed by parents for speaking out or up,....

no doubt others here can give any number of other reasons.

A part of the 'humanity' agenda is to grasp the fact that others, 'the other' just is not me, you, us. They have different psychologies, histories, knowledge, understanding, abilities, reasons for being here, etc. eyc. etc.

A great deal of our way of life works against 'knowing', believing in the sheer inescapable reality of others, and respect for them. We are more likely to see others as parts of ourselves projected, or as things to be manipulated or ...............


And Saggies notoriously trample all over others, often in a very friendly manner, withjout realising they're foing any such thing!!


Got to make off for work.

Ivor