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Thread #106771   Message #2214815
Posted By: beardedbruce
13-Dec-07 - 05:13 PM
Thread Name: BS: WMDs, Iran and Bush
Subject: RE: BS: WMDs, Iran and Bush
"Well, whoes deadline, bb???"

The UN Security Council, per UNR 1441.


"I mean, let's get real here for one danged minute... Isn't it mankind's ultimate goal to prevent war???"

Agreed. So you believe that letting Saddam continue was in the best interests of Peace?

I do not agree with that assessment

"look, if a guy on feath row is found out to be innocent even though he is scheduled to die there are mechanisms to stop the execution..."

Had Saddam declared his borders open, or even abdicated power, there would have been no war.

"I don't buy "deadlines" as justification for Bush to invade Iraq..."

You seem determined not to accept any reason at all.

"Now, to bb's "guess" as to why the hurry... This is about the dumbest argument that I have read yet in that you guess it was to prevent Saddam from removing the evidence... "

Sarcasm, old chum. The delay did allow for the removal of unknown material and evidence, just what certain nations wanted.

Per Blix:"Iraq has also declared the recent import of chemicals used in propellants, test instrumentation, and guidance and control system. These items may well be for proscribed purposes. That is yet to be determined. What is clear is that they were illegally brought into Iraq. That is, Iraq or some company in Iraq circumvented the restrictions imposed by various resolutions. "

Care to ask what countries were sending prohibited material to Iraq? ( Hint: They voted against holding Saddam to the UNR)

"Wasn't that the goal... I remwember clearly Condi and Dick runnin' 'round tellin' everyone about mushroom clouds and all that... Well, if the "evidence" was WMD, if Saddam removed them then wasn't that what we wanted???"

NO! YOU have not ever understoodd the plain English that was actually SAID. It was the transfer of thos WMD to unknown and/or terrorist elements that was wanted: And the delay just made that more likely, and certainly easier.

"Your arguments don't make any sense, bb..."

On the contrary, I have attempted to show the reasoning behind my arguements, whereas you have NOT demonstrated that your arguments have any basis in the facts.

:Your final opinion that we should have invaded obn January 28th is ***proof positive*** that you never cared one bit about whether of not Iraq had any WMD... You just wanted a war...:

False conclusion.

*** I *** wanted the prohibited materials ( KNOWN by the UN to have been in Iraqi hands in 1998) to be under UN control, and NOT be accessable to other groups such as Syria or Hezballah. It is the attitude that anything ios better than war that has caused the most death- Hitler would NOT have started WWII if he had not been given the green light, achieving "Peace in our time" but dooming 27 million shortly afterward.