Bobert, there was NEVER (Shouting), repeat, NEVER (shouting again) supposed to be any leeway at all given to Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

We'd had 12 years of their bullshit, now was the time that they had to straighten up. They were given one last final chance to do so to remain intact. Did they do so - Did they fuck. Saddam and Co., screwed up as best they could, and got caught in a cross-fire that completely and utterly consumed them. Now I hate to put this to you Bobert but that was their choice and theirs alone. Basically Bobert they were talking when they should have been listening. So they were consumed and relegated to the dustbin of history and quite rightly so in my opinion but there it is.

All those who claim that everything would have been better with Iraq under the rule of Saddam Hussein declare so now, here on this thread now.

By the bye before you all rush to vote, consider how many voices have been raised to wish the return of Saddam within Iraq? - I have heard none so far.

This I believe is brilliant, from someone who I do not respect politically, but in this instance he had it spot on:

"There are glib and sometimes foolish comparisons with the 1930s. I am not suggesting for a moment that anyone here is an appeaser or does not share our revulsion at the regime of Saddam. However, there is one relevant point of analogy. It is that, with history, we know what happened. We can look back and say, "There's the time; that was the moment; that's when we should have acted." However, the point is that it was not clear at the time—not at that moment. In fact, at that time, many people thought such a fear fanciful or, worse, that it was put forward in bad faith by warmongers. Let me read one thing from an editorial from a paper that I am pleased to say takes a different position today. It was written in late 1938 after Munich. One would have thought from the history books that people thought the world was tumultuous in its desire to act. This is what the editorial said:

"Be glad in your hearts. Give thanks to your God. People of Britain, your children are safe. Your husbands and your sons will not march to war. Peace is a victory for all mankind . . . And now let us go back to our own affairs. We have had enough of those menaces, conjured up . . . to confuse us."

Now, of course, should Hitler again appear in the same form, we would know what to do. But the point is that history does not declare the future to us plainly. Each time is different and the present must be judged without the benefit of hindsight. So let me explain to the House why I believe that the threat that we face today is so serious and why we must tackle it." - Tony Blair.

Thank goodness for everyone that somebody realised that NOW was the time to confront this evil.