A good point, Jerry, and I don't disagree with your logic at all. But, if it doesn't *sound* like any other tune that anyone in here at Mudcat knows about, then chances are that Ungar did actually make it up ... in which case, I think he deserves some praise because it has that special quality that some really, really old trad. tunes have. The sort of tune which has been refined over decades or centuries.Helen