"You point: Bruce didn't in fact point anything, apart from pointing to an article he cut and pasted. "

Absolutely true. I have found that it is pointless to express my own opinion, and get honest opinions from many here. Whatever I state, they feel obligated to oppose.

I find it interesting that it is ok to pressure a foreign government in some cases to do what we want them to, but not in other cases. I feel that Saudi treatment of women is despicable, and we should apply the same sanctions that South Africa recieved, until they change their system.

But that will not happen.