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Thread #106386   Message #2219061
Posted By: Barry Finn
19-Dec-07 - 01:37 PM
Thread Name: photographing/recording musicians
Subject: RE: photographing/recording musicians
Why don't we all stay home & play with ourselves, privately, it's not like we can't do it on our own, play with ourselves that is.

Making music with other musicians (as opposed to giging, or the practice of group practice/sessions, which I detest & should be called closed sessions) is a communal intercourse & many may take it for granted but it's sometimes the equalivant of a spiritual movement that deserves, demands & disires being captured. It, like we are a fleeting moment that might never happen in the same way again. Who thinks themselves so important that they'd demand permission of this? Think of how tempermental sessions are, 1 asshole can ruin it or just changing the corner where it's been played over the yrs can through it off, so if someone thinks it's worth recording or photographing tell 'em "fuck off" & ruin it for them, you & the rest of the gang. Swallow a little bit instead of spitting it'll leave a better taste in your mouth fo afterwards.

This is making a mountain out of a mole hill, stop taking yourselves so seriously, none of us are as important as the music so whatever it is that you think you're protecting by coverting your likeness or your sounds, get over it, it's not that big a deal if you get framed, shot or redubed without permission. It's not someone being cheeky, it's someone that has an enough of an interest to bother & may not be aware of your shelfessness. In over 30 yrs of sessions I've only incountered someone flashing in my face a couple of times, while it can be a toss off, so what, if I couldn't recover I didn't know my song/tune as well as I should've but I can say that there's been so much recording & snapshot taking by both participants & non participants that I see it as 2nd nature to the session. In some bars, pictures of musicians & session has become common decore for the walls & I rather like it too. Here in the New England area where I frequent the most & the few odd times in New York & San Francisco it's more unusual that this occurance would not take place.

Maybe you can ask the photographers to post the likenesses here on Mudcat, would you balk then?

Barry