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Thread #107116 Message #2219115
Posted By: Bee
19-Dec-07 - 03:12 PM
Thread Name: BS: Failure of Feminism?
Subject: RE: BS: Failure of Feminism?
Greg B, that's the kind of verbal nitpickery feminists are often accused of. There were and are plenty of men who agree that women should have full access to whatever men have full access to, but a great many of them don't care to be referred to as 'feminists', for whatever their reasons may be. Likewise, there are men who take on the label with enthusiasm. I look forward to the day when, where human issues are concerned, we can refer to ourselves, regardless of gender, as humans, or people.
I don't know how old you are, Greg, but in the early days of the most recent women's movement, a dismaying majority of men were very much opposed to gender equality, or agreed that some things should be changed, but not all, or that women were going too far, or that all feminists were 'lesbians and manhaters'. Men who called themselves feminists received a great deal of abuse from other men for speaking up.
Calling oneself a feminist is not fashionable these days. Many young women shy away from the label while espousing the goals. I can suggest several reasons for that, one being the extreme male-hating rhetoric from a small but vocal contingent of radical feminist writers and speakers, most of whom are long since retired or dead, but who are always referred to by men who resent any suggestion that just maybe womens' rights have a ways to go. Another is the wish by younger women not to alienate their male friends and colleagues, who are also young and don't often know what the fuss was all about, and are fed tales of affirmative action threatening their jobs. And yet another is the rise of the religious right, both Islamic and Christian, wherein women and men are told that God says they are not equal. I've seen very religious couples who spout the Biblical or Koran's message of man being the head, yet practice equality in no uncertain terms.