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Thread #107257   Message #2222368
Posted By: 282RA
25-Dec-07 - 11:27 AM
Thread Name: BS: How old is civilization?
Subject: RE: BS: How old is civilization?
Then we have pyramids all over the earth. Not only Egypt and Mexico but India and the South Seas as well. There is a beautiful pyramid located at Candi Sukuh in Java and stone walls that appear to be the ruins of pyramids at the island of Mu'a. The pyramid at Candi Sukuh is said to be Hindu and the bas-relief art depicts men and dwarves with huge, erect penises. The pyramids of Egypt are laid out in replication with certain stars. In fact, the pyramid complex at Giza is laid out in imitation of the three stars in the belt of Orion and the Great Pyramid of Cheops is itself an astronomical observatory.

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How is it that these great stones used in these ancient pyramids across the globe are simply stacked together without a shred of mortar to hold them together? The same holds true for structures as Tiahuanaco in Bolvia and Macchu Picchu in the Andes and the stonewalls on Mu'a. How were these great stones cut and transported? The Gate of the Sun at Tiahuanaco is carved out of a single block of stone and weighs 15 tons.

Gate of the Sun

Who made it? It would appear to be Mayan Indians or some tribe closely related to them. The proof is in the man pictured on the Gate of the Sun. He is quite clearly a Mayan priest. He has been called a weeping little ancient astronaut but he's not dressed for space travel. He is wearing a Mayan priest's headdress. He is not stubby and dwarfy—he is kneeling. He is not weeping but paints his cheeks with dots that, on the Gate, look like they were probably inlaid with stones at one time. If they were meant to represent tears, then we can only surmise what this priest is weeping about. Perhaps he was betrayed. Then he sounds like the Essenes' Teacher of Righteousness or Jesus according to Hebrews. Such an austere looking thing in such an austere terrain (the air is quite thin). Think of what the temple it was originally attached to must have looked like.

Off the coast of Okinawa lie the submerged ruins of some type of a huge multi-tiered platform carved from black stone.

Yonaguni Platform

When first discovered quite accidentally by a diver in 1995, scientists and researchers dismissed the structure as a natural formation caused by erosion due to rising and falling sea levels. Indeed some natural formations can look very artificial. Part of the reason for believing the platform natural was that it was solid with no inner passageways or doors leading inside the structure. But the discovery of an arched entranceway and stone spheres substantially larger than a human being in one part of the complex (mysterious stone spheres are found all over Costa Rica also) and three holes in the structure that line up perfectly straight have forced science to accept the structure as manmade. Who built it, when and why is not known.

There is speculation that the builders may have also built Japan's Nakagusuku Castle. Although it is generally credited with having been constructed early in the 15th century by one Lord Gosamaru, the truth is that no one is sure when it was built and that it might be from the first millennium BCE and has simply been occupied by various warlords many centuries later. Some feel the workmanship of the platform and the castle are the same.

Nakagusuku Castle

Who cut and moved the stones to build the temple in Baalbek, Lebanon? The stone below was left unused and may weigh 2000 tons!

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The Baalbek ruins are enormous and no one really knows whose culture it is that made them. It's demonstrably ancient and these people thought BIG! Take a look at these ruins. Drink it in really good. The smaller stacked stones on top are Roman (the Romans, btw, made no claim to having built the original ruins). They used the ruins as a fortress. They are big stones themselves and yet see how small they are compared to the ruins they are stacked on. One can see also that the upper wall is quite a bit newer than the ruins themselves meaning they are ancient and were ancient by the time the Romans built on them. Notice too how the original builders built a bulwark of smaller stacked stones and then placed the enormous blocks ON TOP of them somehow not crushing the smaller stones stacked beneath. Then look down between the two trees at the bottom of the photo. Look hard and you will see a man standing there. See him? THAT is how HUGE the Baalbek ruins are!! Some of its stones weigh 1500 tons!!

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And Baalbek isn't the only place in the Middle East to boast of great stone ruins. In northeast Pakistan in the Indus River Valley stand the 5000-year-old ruins of Harappa and another 400 miles to the south that is equally old called Mohenjo-daro. Although these aren't so much stone ruins as fire-baked brick ruins. The streets are huge as are their granaries. The people farmed a great deal and were very dependent on it. They were surrounded by wildlife and marshes but were prone to flooding. Mohenjo-daro was rebuilt at least six times due to floods. These are the earliest known civilizations to plan and layout their cities. We know this because they rebuilt identically each time indicating that they followed a set lay-out. They domesticated many animals including cats, dogs, goats, sheep, buffalo and camels. The cities had a highly impressive and advanced system of huge public baths, latrines, plumbing and sewers. They had a written script. They appeared to have no religion or at least no temples or churches of any kind. Their cities appear to be extremely utilitarian—the useful was the good and what most has the right to exist is the most useful to society. Evidently, religion didn't rank too highly in their scheme of things. But they made exquisite jewelry and obviously had trade going in far-off places. We have not begun to decipher their writings. We know nothing of their history, beliefs, customs, language, science, etc. We don't even know what happened to them. For some reason, these cities were abandoned between 1800 BCE and 1700 BCE. Many artifacts and parts of the cities are still being excavated and will for years to come. We have not scratched the surface with these ancient Indus River Valley civilizations.

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