Been playing alot of 12 string of late as mine wife ownes a fine old Takamamine 12 all solid mahogany w/built in pu. Have been able to listen to some recordings where Eric Darling was the 12 string player. "Walk Right In" is one that comes to mind. Have had a couple of 12's in my time a '69 D-12-35S and a D12-28 and sold them both. This is is the first time I've actually decided to make a study of the instrument. Had an opportunity years ago to play Bob Gibson's Bozo in Chicago backstage at a benefit and must say it was w/o question the finest 'aural' experience of my life. The thing that's most impressive is the fact that one can't 'bullshit' your arppeggio notes, hammerons and pulloffs on a 12. One sluffed note can ruin the whole sequence...I love how hard it's making me work. The combo of lead/rhythm is relatively easy until you factor in the fact that EVERY ovtave note needs to ring or it sounds like a big 'thud' in the middle of an otherwise vituoustic passage. No cheap 'upstrokes' will get it done, everything's got to be solid and down. Love it. It's makeing me a better musician. I see why the statement 'real men have 12s'. I'm hooked and hopeless.