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Thread #104272   Message #2223224
Posted By: JohnInKansas
27-Dec-07 - 11:11 AM
Thread Name: Tech: DSL Broadband - what do I need to know?
Subject: RE: Tech: DSL Broadband - what do I need to know?
The 192.168.0.x is the range that Windows has used since WWG3.11 for Internet Connection Sharing (ICS). The machine that has the internet connection is automatically 192.168.0.1, and Windows - since way back then - has an extremely rudimentary DNS that assigns numbers to other machines. The ICS hookup is sort of the "basic scheme" for Workgroups - up until Vista.

A common problem with the Windows sytem is that it can use the whole range for the last segment, from 0 - 255, so there's no place to put a device with a fixed IP address where Windows can't assign something else the same address and create a conflict. There NEVER HAS BEEN an official admission by Microsoft that this happens, but one "whitepaper" about half a century ago included a comment by one of Mickey's whiz kids that "higher is safer, stay above 100." (It did help when I moved my printer address up.)

Different router makers use different segments, but the Linksys stuff all uses the 192.168.1.x range, with the top router 192.168.1.1 for the "gateway." I think Linksys puts the "control management" page at 192.168.1.110. They only use part of the range, so there's some range where you can drop a fixed IP device in and not clink. I just have to figure out which end of the range is the safe end.

I have gotten through a second computer, and seem to have gotten it connected to the first one. The change in the "Microsoft network setup" wasn't the only one required though. I did have to back engineer the policy changes the Norton guy made. He created a new "Firewall policy" that allows devices in the 192.168.1.1 thru 192.168.1.255 to access each other for some functions, and sorted all the other rules - which changes their priorities - some rather drastically.

I probably could add another rule to allow traffic to/from the print server that's at 192.168.0.xxx, but I think I'll worry about that when I get the other couple of computers connected.

My next problem is that the two I've got up are using NIS2007 on WinXP Pro. The other WinXP machine is a WinXP Home OS, but has NIS2008 on it, which is a completely reshuffled interface. The fourth machine has NIS2007, but is running Vista which has NO SYSTEM AT ALL for user management of stuff.

John