All words of encouragement duly noted and accepted with thanks!!! WISYWIG, I think your plan was excellent and am following it already......told him as long as he is good to my daughter, forever, all will be well. Told him I don't want to be an interfering MIL and the words ....'you should....' will never pass my lips (or I'll try not to anyway).

Of course if he is not good to my daughter there may be yet another use of sawdust to add to Barry's helpful list above!!! Death by excess sawdust inhalation?????? I am happy to announce I will not be referred to as Mil or Millie, but just plain old Deborah!!!

Happy new year to all!

PS Penny has promised not to be Bridezilla but she has already established a short list of web site choices for favors, and is planning on driving to Camden, yes, that is Camden - waaaaaay north of Portland - to check out wedding cakes!!!!! Fortunately my best friend is really into all this stuff and will provide help and support -- the thought of spending days looking for appropriate dresses etc , makes me want to panic......I hate the Mall!