Now then, hopefully having got back to some sort of order...

Couple of points made. What can we do to ensure the continuity of good music without handing it over to the TV and pop media? I think Diane had a couple of suggestions. Any more?

Is there any way to get the rank and file to accept that, while old uncle Fred very rightfuly has his place, there are better things about?

I can enjoy even the odd poor performances at clubs, particularly if I have paid only a couple of quid to listen to amateurs, but I enjoy far more the festival and concert performances of the true professionals. When we do get those pro's at the clubs how do we ensure that they are paid a proper rate?

and, back to the opening post, who agrees that music with a structure and a history can be as enjoyable as the Avant Garde. You don't need to 'break any barriers' to be good. I accept that you don't need to rigidly abide by the Copper family songbook either but surely there is a place for all?

Cheers

Dave