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Thread #101088   Message #2234733
Posted By: Little Hawk
12-Jan-08 - 11:48 AM
Thread Name: BS: Popular Views on Obama
Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
Yes, Kucinich suspects that there was fraud involved in the New Hampshire primary count, as do I, as quite clearly did some of the very surprised commentators on CNN that night (though they didn't come out and openly say so) and if so, that fraud deprived Barack Obama of the win, not Dennis Kucinich.

Yet Kucinich is the one calling for an investigation, and yes, that is idealism. Dennis Kucinich might just be the most honest and patriotic man left in American politics at this juncture.

If there was fraud, it was arranged so that Hillary Clinton would "win", needless to say.

Both the exit polls that day and previous statewide polls had indicated a strong win for Obama. Not just a win, a strong win.


Azizi, you said: "I stand with an increasing number of African Americans and non-African Americans who believe that the Clintons and their campaign spokespeople are using racial code words in their descriptions of Barack Obama, and are thus exploiting racism for their own personal gain {to try to win the Democratic nomination."

Right on. That is exactly what the Clintons and their campaign spokepeople are doing. Is it "racism"? Perhaps...but I'll tell you what else it is, quite aside from that...it's a totally cynical and unscrupulous attempt to damage Barack Obama through innuendo so that the Clintons can get back in the White House....and YES, it IS an exploitation of issues of race. It's despicable behaviour on their part, and I hope they pay a big price for it.

Donuel, you said: Now listen up: Until we see a candidate as a person and not a representative of his or her race , WE WILL NOT BE FREE of predjudice.

EXACTLY. That is what I have been saying for a long time on this forum. We have got to see a person simply as a person, not as a representative of this or that race...or religion. We have got to see ourselves that way too. There's a desperate need for people to do that...to see others simply as equal human beings, not stereotypes...and I hope I live to see the day when that is accomplished.