Raptor - I think was with you right up until the point you mentioned the G-word. Since when did G*d have anything to do with intelligent argument? Soon as you bring G*d into it, it falls apart completely, given the utter sentimental subjectivism involved - an utter sentimental subjectivism that invariably leads to the two greatest evils humanity has ever come up with, namely Righteousness and Fundamentalism.

The BG-word doesn't help either come to think of it, with his self-righteous celebrity circus parades and their nauseating overtones of the Nuremberg Rally - i.e. mass compliance to a corrupt & ultimately inhuman cause that seeks vainly to eradicate one of the symptomatic prerequisites of the very global societal condition that allows them such outrageous wealth and privilege in the first place.