Sorry McGrath, but I don't think anyone said the girls and their mother were lying - so please do not put those words in my mouth.

I'm glad you feel that the BBC News is a reliable source. However, you don't seem to be understanding the point I have been trying to make. There are other questions to be asked and one report does not constitute the whole story.

I'm not sure how things are done in the UK, but if you are on trial here in the United States BOTH sides have their say and report how they saw the facts. Then a jury decides.   What the BBC report shows is one side of the story - a side that could very well be the entire story, but there are still unanswered questions.

A few years ago there was a big story in the NYC area about a couple from Denmark who left a baby in a stroller outside of a restaurant and went inside to eat. That is unthinkable to most people in this country. Your own country has a story about a young girl who was left alone by her parents at a hotel in Spain with tragic results. In some cultures, that sort of behavior is acceptable.

Yes, our health care sucks and social services suck and hospitals suck - to use plain English. I've had experience or know people who have dealt with such services. Still, the BBC story - and messages by individiuals on Mudcat - automatically condemn the actions and insinuate that the girls were mistreated.   

While they may not have liked to take a shower - there IS a question as to what sort of "force" they are describing. Were they physically held down and stripped, or were they handed clothes and told to go take a shower.

I'm sorry you don't seem to have any questions and accept everything in this story at face value - but I prefer not to make my own assumptions and wait to hear more before passing judgement. I'm not condoning nor condeming based on one single BBC story. They are far from perfect.