The Democrats can win with Obama--who will unite the Democrats, get lots of independents, and even some Republicans--( see the op ed by Susan Eisenhower, for instance--and she is not alone)- -- and get scads of new voters.

With Hillary--let's see: quite a few unenthusiastic Democrats, very few independents, hardly any new voters, and--despite all the gnashing of teeth by Republicans now, when push comes to shove, very few will not react to the well-known magic words for Republicans: President Hillary Clinton.

And none will vote for Hillary.

So it should be fairly obvious who has the best chance against McCain in the fall.

And it ain't Hillary.

If anybody disagrees with this analysis, it would be good to hear some logic and evidence.