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Thread #106771   Message #2254599
Posted By: CarolC
05-Feb-08 - 08:01 PM
Thread Name: BS: WMDs, Iran and Bush
Subject: RE: BS: WMDs, Iran and Bush
Rubbish, Teribus.

Really? Then they must have indeed prospered, which amazes me because neither would let them settle, assimulate or integrate with their own populations. If memory serves me correct they had no rights of citizenship or resource to educational or health programmes.

The Palestinians you are talking about are the ones who were not in the West Bank or Gaza, who fled to Jordan during the Nakba (original ethnic cleansing prior to and during the "War of Independence"). I am talking about the Palestinians who never left the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem, or who fled to those places during the Nakba (original ethnic cleansing prior to and during the "War of Independence"), where they were already assimilated into and integrated with the population of that area, since that's where they were from. They may not have had any rights of citizenship in Jordan or Egypt, but they also do not have any rights of citizenship in Israel, either. They do not have citizenship in any country whatever to this very day, even though they are living in the place where they are from. And while it's true that the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza were neglected by the governments of Jordan and Egypt, they weren't being deprived of their homes and livelihoods as they are now.

The ethnic cleansing started about six months before the "War of Independence" for Israel, although there were Jewish boycotts of non-Jewish Palestinians prior to that time, and Palestinians were being deprived of their livelihoods prior to that time. Palestinians were also being dispossessed when the lands they were living on as tenants of absentee landlords were being bought up by European Jews. And while this was not illegal, the Palestinians nevertheless were rightly concerned that they were being squeezed out of their own homeland.

The ethnic cleansing began in earnest when Jewish paramilitary forces began slaughtering innocent villagers (in some cases, killing most of the inhabitants of the villages... just mowing them down, women, children, old men - everybody) in order to scare all of the Palestinians who lived in villages that the founders of the state of Israel felt were strategic to their aims of taking as much land as possible once Israel declared its independence, in order to get them to flee.

The ethnic cleansing continues to this day as thousands of Palestinian homes are being demolished and Jewish-only settlements built on land that is rightfully Palestinian land. The occupation also serves, along with the settlements, as a military strategy for the removal of Palestinians from their land. The method is to make life for the Palestinians so bloody miserable, that they will willingly leave. In Gaza, the blockade (which has actually been going on in a somewhat less severe form since Israel withdrew its forces from there) also serves this purpose.

There is also ethnic cleansing of "Arabs" from Israel proper as well, as thousands of homes of "Arab Israelis" are also being confiscated and/or demolished. If they can't have a home in Israel (or the West Bank, Gaza, or East Jerusalem), they will have to leave the area and go somewhere where they will be allowed to live. And in this way, Israel accomplishes it's long standing (and oft stated) goal of removing all of the "Arabs" from the land that Israel wants for Jews only.