I guess I have to say I'm tired of all this. I believe in God, and that belief brings a depth to my life that I wouldn't have otherwise. Other people don't believe in God, and a forced belief would make them shallow.

All of these words that have been fired back and forth end up saying the same thing:

• Some believers think nonbelievers are awful, and also feel persecuted by nonbelievers
• Some nonbelievers think believers are awful, and also feel persecuted by believers
• Some people think all of this is really silly. People have a right to their own beliefs and ideas, and should be respected for that.

I have been asked to close this thread because of all the acrimony expressed. I'm unwilling to do that, but I would hope that most Mudcatters fall in the third category. I guess the rest of you in categories one and two are going to continue to duke it out, whether I close this thread or not. So, fight on - but remember that a number of us think you are really quite stupid to be fighting about this.

-Joe Offer-