sue: I can see where you're coming from, but I actually *do* perceive those things in her, despite her laid-back style. Oh, well...

Again, what I find interesting about this thread is the number of people who pop in, say something negative about Kate, and then *duck* or say something like, "Now I've set the cat among the pigeons!" (I can't remember the actual quote, but I'm too lazy to go back and check). Which to me suggests, yet again, people being negative merely for the sake of getting a reaction. Hey, it's a free forum, but I still don't get what it is about Kate that brings out this sort of gratuitous behavior. Do y'all really despise her that much, or do you really need attention that badly?