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Thread #108904   Message #2270984
Posted By: GUEST,Guest
24-Feb-08 - 11:32 AM
Thread Name: BS: Nader is coming on Meet the Press now
Subject: RE: BS: Nader is coming on Meet the Press now
OK, tell you what folks. How about you explain how continuing to vote the same way you have always voted, will result in the deep systemic changes (a status quo in place now since the Reagan era) our government needs to make, actually happening?

You vote the same, it is guaranteed the results will be the same. A Democrat or a Republican will win by a nose hair, or a Supreme Court intervention, or whatever way it pans out this year. There will be no landslide, because political partisans like you are driven by hatred of the other side, not love of your country.

There is no other possible outcome in this game. It is controlled by a ruling oligarchy that uses the two party system like a gladiator game. You have a red team and a blue team. You have the Democratic brand and Republican brand. They fight to a draw, so you will come back in four years and watch the very same media spectacle all over again with different players from the same teams...

All the while, the ruling oligarchy gets the teams to "work together" in the spirit of "bi-partisanship" to pass MORE laws to benefit the ruling oligarchy at the expense of the country, it's citizenry, it's natural resources, etc etc etc

The ONLY way to force the government to change is through building a huge social change movement that pushes and forces the politicians to change. That is the ONLY way true systemic change has ever come about in the US, or anywhere for that matter. Authentic, systemic social, economic, and political change movements come from outside the electoral system, not from within.

This is the last time Nader will run. This is our country's last, best chance to push forward a truly progressive social change agenda that will force change for the better.

It will never happen if either Obama or Clinton are elected president, because they are both candidates that represent the status quo.

If you are happy with the way things are, then by all means, vote for the Democrat.

But if you truly think that electing yet another puppet place holder to the White House will mean our democracy is lost forever to the ruling oligarchy, it is time to change the way you have been voting.

The responses to this announcement from posters here has been immediate and reactionary, just as I would have expected. But to those of you who really do think deeply about this, and are truly progressive, you have to be saying to yourself, something really does have to change this time, and voting Obama ain't it. Obama is not an authentic leader of a social change movement. His so-called 'grassroots' campaign isn't an authentic grassroots campaign. It is a very typical duopolist campaign, financed by huge corporate donations.

Think about that. Think long and hard. Look at the horizon. Beyond voting in November, where do you see our nation headed with Obama in the White House?

We need to force the neo-Gilded Age status quo out of office in record numbers. Progressive activists must press forward with OUR agenda, so when the Democratic party collapses after this election, we are organized, energized, feet on the ground, and ready to move in and take over in the inevitable political vacuum that will follow.

That simply can't happen by voting for business as usual, and hoping for a different outcome.