There is a certain element of truth to that GG. But one cannot deny the monomaniacal aspects of Nader's continual tilting at the windmill. And while you are justified in your criticism of the Gore strategy, one also cannot deny the pragmatic effect of that loss, as pointed out by Cool Beans and Charley Noble. One also cannot deny the hard numbers that were demonstrably siphoned off from the Gore votes by Nader. In other threads, I have noted a slant on your posts in which you express some very guarded hopes about knocking off "the war machine" and the disastrous economic policies of the Republicans. I am almost reading into it that you hope for an Obama win. I don't mean to speak for you, but that certainly is the hope of many. While I get the philosophical wish, and the admiration for the Naders and Kucinichs, I want the very best chance at effecting real change. Nader exercising his Harold Stassen-like campaign just doesn't do that for me. It doesn't add to the debate, it seems to muddy it.

Mick