Geoff, I forgive you (sic) everything for kindly giving a nod to the late great Tommy Harmer.

Up to the start of this season, in the Football/Premier League, Spurs record agin Forest is

P.104 W. 49 D.24   L.31 F.175 A.138

Forest are good, and I'll always admire any team that plays attractively.


The Villan, by the grim look on John Terry's face after the game, not even looking at who was giving him his medal, and the fall-out since at Chelski, I'd say the Carling still carries considerable weight. (And I would say that, wouldn't I?)


   Ivor