I'll try to find another video for you, Bobert.

Remember, extraordinary claims and accusations require extraordinary proof. You (and others) are arguing for the relevance of these suppositions, and drawing lines between obvious truths and pure speculation that boggle the mind.

I would use this very argument do refute your arguments, Bill. The government has not offered any proof at all, much less extraordinary proof of the validity of their own conspiracy theory. All they have offered is speculation, most of which isn't even based on any physical evidence whatever. I showed you an example of this in that other thread, and instead of providing a counter argument (you couldn't because there isn't one), you just said something along the lines of "you people will never learn, and I give up", and that's it.

And yet you are willing to accept the government's versions (and I use the plural of that word intentionally) of events uncritically, and without any skepticism whatever. All you have is theory and opinion, which means that you have no more evidence than I have. So for you to make these kinds of accusations against those who accept a different version of events than you do is gross hypocrisy.

No...why do you ask? Entirely different situation.

I ask because to make the kinds of accusations you are making is no different than if someone made such accusations against people calling for an investigation into Iran Contra. Prior to proof surfacing about that criminal conspiracy, had I said that the US government was selling weapons to Iran so that it could give money to terrorists in Nicaragua, people like you would be making insulting and patronizing accusations against me and calling me a "conspiracy theorist". But the thing is, I would have been right. Until you can prove me wrong (and you cannot do that, because the physical evidence has been destroyed), all you have to go on is theories yourself. That doesn't give you any more high ground to occupy in these discussion than me. We know the US government engages in criminal conspiracies (Iran Contra being only one example), and we know that they lie to us all the time (reasons for going to war against Iraq being only one example). So you are not in a position to say that you are right and everyone who disagrees with you is wrong. All you've got to go on is theory and opinions.