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Thread #106771   Message #2276314
Posted By: CarolC
01-Mar-08 - 02:01 AM
Thread Name: BS: WMDs, Iran and Bush
Subject: RE: BS: WMDs, Iran and Bush
I need to respond to these, Barry, if I want to get any sleep tonight.


I have not written them off- but you have ignored that many were driven out - "clensed" by those so-innocent Moslims that made the West Bank "juden-frie" from 1948 to 1967.

This is a lie. Most of the Christian Palestinians who have left have done so because of the brutal occupation of the Palestinian lands by the Israelis. This is yet another libel being told about the Palestinians by the government of Israel, to stir up yet more hatred toward Palestinians, Arabs, and Muslims.


YOU are tho one who states that ALL jews think such, or that "Israel" intends to do things.

This is a bald faced lie, beardedbruce. Right here in this thread I have said that there are Jews living peacefully in Palestinian villages who are treating the Palestinians as friends and as equals. YOU are the one who chooses to translate my criticism of Israel into a criticism of all Jews. But this is an incredibly dishonest tactic, and you know it. I have also said numerous times that there are many, many Jews who are not racist like you, and who are fighting very hard for the rights of Palestinians. And I have said that these people are my heroes.

As for the Nazi, it is those who support the ( internationally declared) illegal area mass bombardments, by rockets aimed at civilian areas, that are the ones in violation of international law- YET YOU DO NOT object to THAT.

The Palestinians are fighting against occupation (even the ones in Gaza, who are still under occupation, even if the soldiers who enforce that occupation are on the other side of the wall now). When Jews place themselves among the Palestinians as friends rather than as occupiers, the Palestinians welcome them and do not hurt them. They do not hold all Jews responsible for the behavior of some Jews. They are not the racists, and they are not practicing anything resembling a Nazi ideology. But you advocate punishing all Palestinians for the actions of some Palestinians, regardless of whether or not the Palestinians in question have committed the acts that you object to. This is the racist practice, and this is the practice that inherits the Nazi ideology.

HOW MUCH of Mandate Palestine do you insist be reserved solely for the Moslims?

I have never insisted that ANY of it be reserved solely for Muslims. I have never used the word Moslim (Muslim) in this context at all. And I have never insisted, or even suggested, that any of it be reserved solely for Palestinians. You are the one who is advocating that land should be set aside for the exclusive use of a particular group (Jews). I am saying that all groups should be allowed to live on all of the land (with freedom and equality). That is all I have ever been saying.

You are the one who insists that Jews should be allowed to live in apartheid, Jewish-only settlements wherever they want to, regardless of how many Palestinians get displaced in the process. Or if that's not what you're saying, then I guess you would have no problem with allowing Palestinians to live in the settlements, and use the roads that currently only Jews can use to get to and from the settlements. And you would have no problem with allowing non-Jews to buy land from Jews in Israel. And you would have no problem with allowing any Palestinians who want to, to live in Israel (Israel within the 67 borders).