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Thread #106771   Message #2276329
Posted By: Teribus
01-Mar-08 - 02:57 AM
Thread Name: BS: WMDs, Iran and Bush
Subject: RE: BS: WMDs, Iran and Bush
"When Jews place themselves among the Palestinians as friends rather than as occupiers, the Palestinians welcome them and do not hurt them." - CarolC

What a ridiculous statement. It flies in the face of history. Is that what happened before CarolC? Not according to what happened, and if anybody doubts that all they have to do is consult the records of the time.

"They do not hold all Jews responsible for the behavior of some Jews. They are not the racists, and they are not practicing anything resembling a Nazi ideology." - CarolC

Ah, so those clowns down in Gaza firing all those rockets into the civilian centres of population in Israel know for definite that the people they are firing at are the Israelis responsible for all the ills of the Palestinian Arabs do they? I am dying to hear what you come up with by way of justification for what most certainly is a clear example of collective punishment and an act in direct contravention of the Geneva Convention.

For those interested here are the answers to the questions that CarolC seems reluctant to answer:

1. How many videos have you seen aired of Israelis cutting off peoples heads CarolC?

Answer: NONE

2. How many times have you seen, or heard, senior Israeli officials boasting of the store of body parts they have in the freezer to use as bargaining counters?

Answer: NEVER

3. Are Jews and Palestinians living peacefully side by side in Gaza CarolC?

Answer: No they are not, all Jewish/Israelis were evacuated from Gaza under the terms of the unilateral agreement to withdraw reached with the Palestinain Authority.

4. In the great Jewish Mandate of Palestine "land-grab", the Jews "grabbed" less than 7% of what was available. Now just by comparison how much land did your forefathers grab in North America CarolC?

Answer: CarolC's forefathers grabbed 97.5% of the land mass of the United States of America leaving the indigenous population with 2.5% which is administered by the Bureau of Indian Affairs.

5. The arguement for Arab concern in the 1920's was that the influx of European Jewry was puting an unsustainable burden on the land in Palestine - That was when the total population of Palestine or the 23% of the total Mandated Territory was around 1 million people - Present day Arab population of Palestine is roughly 4.5 million and the population of Israel is 7.2 million - So what exactly was the validity of the Arab concern in the 1920's CarolC?

Answer: The Arabs concerns were baseless, as was reported by the Peel Commission in 1937. However this concern over land was used as a pretext to severely restrict pre-war Jewish immigration.

6. Did the Israelis honour their commitment to withdraw from Gaza?

Answer: Yes they did in full.

7. Did the Palestinian Authority honour its commitment to halt rocket attacks on Israel from Gaza?

Answer: No they did not, the attacks continue to this day.

8. Provide one example of any commitment or agreement entered into by the Palestinians that they have kept or have ever even had the slightest intention of keeping with regard to Israel.

Answer: Their commitment to the complete and utter destruction of Israel as can be clearly read in the Charters of both Hamas and Hezbollah.

9 Tell us about the Massacre at Hebron in 1929 CarolC.

Answer: Unprovoked attack by Arabs on a Jewish town that had been an established jewish community for over 800 years. 67 people were killed and the population was driven out of the their homes, which explains why the demographics for Hebron now show an Arab population of 35,000 and a Jewish community of less than 800.

10. What is the correct definition of a "Palestinian"?

Answer: According to the UN anyone who resided or worked in the Mandated Territory of Palestine in the two years before Israel's declaration of Independence (1946 to 1948).