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Thread #109464 Message #2289277
Posted By: GUEST,Guest
15-Mar-08 - 05:45 PM
Thread Name: BS: Prez surrogates & the race/gender war
Subject: RE: BS: Prez surrogates & the race/gender war
"main man" were my very own original words, Bobert. I was using a colloquial style, defined in Websters thus:
1: of or relating to conversation : conversational2 a: used in or characteristic of familiar and informal conversation; also : unacceptably informal b: using conversational style
You yourself do this sort of thing all the time, Bobert. So why do you have a problem when someone else does it too?
Listen Bobert, I'm saying the guy is being swiftboated by the Republicans here. Do you fundamentally disagree with that assertion?
Now, if you think this won't hurt him in the general election, then by all means, jump in and argue your case.
But don't shoot me for bringing up the topic, just because it confirms your worst fears. Surely, you knew about his church & pastor & their cozy "old uncle" familial relationship before you leapt on his bandwagon? As other posters here have pointed out, this hasn't exactly been a huge secret, and the video from which the You Tube clip was taken was for sale on the church's website.
I agree w/Obama--his church is being unfairly demonized. But the reality is, this guy is a homophobic bigot, and he leads one of Chicago's biggest Afrocentric megachurches. And Obama's refusal to cut ties to him will cost him in the general election if he gets the nomination in July.
How much more could the Repubs ask for than a pastor Obama has linked himself closely to over the years, than a "God Damn America" speech? A speech that has him selling Obama from the pulpit, and damning Clinton for not being black, with the statement "Hilary has never been called nigger..."? He holds homophobic views, as I believe Obama and his wife do too, even though his "official" position claims he is pro-GLBT. The church's magazine naming Louis Farrakhan man of the year?
Hell, this is bad for Clinton too. The Repubs have the footage of Clinton saying what an honor it is to sit next to Obama, blah blah blah. This could even be used to smear Clinton w/the guilt by association w/Obama!
Here is hoping Obama has a plan for fighting all this back. But that could be really hard because he also dumped the info about not having disclosed all the political donations from Rezko this week (smart move, and hope no one notices because they are all looking at the You Tube video--but you can bet Clinton and McCain are going to use it).
And then Obama's record on what the Repubs are going to call a million dollar 'kickback' to the Chicago hospital where his wife works, from an earmark Obama put in the basket after arriving in Washington.
It is a bad week for Obama. Not so bad for Clinton, by comparison, but still not a great week for her either.