But it isn't his supporters he needs to convince anymore Charley. My guess is most will accept what he says at face value, as they are here in Mudcat.

Some will have their faith in him eroded, and will just be less likely to accept what he says at face value.

But it is the general election voters Obama supporters and campaign gurus should be concerned about.

You know Charley, I've said repeatedly I don't have a stake in this beyond spouting my opinions like everyone else. I've made it clear I'll either not vote for president (because I can't stand any of the mainstream party candidates left in the race), or possibly vote for Nader, if he gets on the ballot.

Now, as to it sounds as if I prefer Clinton. I've made it quite clear, I hope, that I believe if the Dems really want to win, Clinton is by far the tougher candidate for the Repubs to beat come the general election.

I believe what we are seeing going on with Obama right now--which as most have pointed out isn't new information--ain't nothin' compared to what will come at him as the Dem prez nominee. And I found out everything I know about Obama w/in a couple weeks time, easily, online after he announced a year ago.

I mean, you can learn a tremendous amount about him just by reading the Chicago papers online! No national news organizations are covering him better than they are.