So Clinton's gets votes from people who really like the idea of a woman president. And she loses votes from people who don't like the idea of a woman president. And the same goes for Obama, in respect of being black.

And no doubt McCain will get votes from people who like the idea of an older president, and lose votes from people who don't. And the same goes in respect of the fact he is a man, if he's up against Clinton, and in respect of his being white.

And for that matter it'd be true enough to say that Bill Clinton, orvGeorge Buish or all the others before, probably wouldn't have been where they were if they hadn't been white.

So why pick on Obama in this kind of "if" game? I think we know, actually...