Well, first of all when it comes to stubborness McWar weems to be in 1st place, McClinto a close second and Obama a distant third...

It is obvious to me, GG, that you dislike Obama, maybe even hate Obama... I don't know yer heart but it's one of the two...

You come off as this person who says that we should be concerned about Iraq yet you attack, attack and attack Obama who is the only one running who has consistently been against the attack from the jump...

Einstien said that a problem cannot be solved by the same conscienousness that created it... On that count I put Obama at the forefront of this 3 dog race...

And you also keep trying to float this idea that Obama knew of every danged sermon that Rev. Wright ever gave... Is is possible, seeing that Obama has been in D.C. for a few years now that he wasn't aware, since he has said he didn't hear these sermons, that he wasn't aware that the Swiftboaters were concocting their l;ittle conspiracy to derail him???

I mean, lets get real here....

If we are going to say that every supporter of Obama is a potential serrogate then that becomes the new standard and therefore the same tactics can be used against both McWar and McClinton...

Lastly, tomorrow morning Obama is going to do something very presidential... He's going to give a major speech on the subjstc at hand...

Lastlty, Part B, GG... Your positions would be better accepted if you didn't fill them up with assumptive, yet unproven, adjectives...

But what would I know bein' the resident hillbilly???

B;~)