Hey, Stilly, I realize that Independence Day was a campy hoot, as you put it, but it still totally annoys me from beginning to end. Everything in it annoys me. I think it expresses too many quintessentially American myths that just want to make me gag...even if they are doing it tongue in cheek.

Anyway, it was absolutely not what I want to see in a science fiction film. I should have read the reviews first, found out what it was like, and saved myself the ticket price, obviously. ;-) I would not have minded so much had I not spent 10 or 12 dollars on it!

As for Pretty Woman, it's not just dopey, it's totally creepy. It's downright sick and I can feel my gut lurch just thinking about that movie. It expresses something so completely ugly about humanity and life that it makes me truly and deeply angry.