>>McCain has brought up a set of points that SHOULD be discussed, but the ones who do not want to see him elected are only going to post lies and try to avoid any real discussion of the issues that the country should be basing the vote on.<<

If you want to bring up those points one by one and discuss them then do so. Make a statement and we will talk about it.

Vis a vis McCain, the choice is pretty clear for me.

1. His strategy for Iraq is not sustainable, is costing us trillions and is not making us any safer.
2. He had admitted four times that he doesn't know anything about economics and has demonstrated his ignorance in speeches. If he was the leader we need. He would have learned what he needs to know by now or he would have hired someone who does know economics to write his speeches.
3. He is seventy two years old and his memory is starting to fail. In this terrible time of crisis, mostly generated by the present Republican President, we need someone energetic and alert who knows who the hell he is fighting against.
4. He is a Republican and I am a conservative. Republicans are not conservative they are money-grubbing spendthrift anarchists. I think it is idiotic to put someone who wants to drown government in a bathtub in charge of our government. Reagan and George Bush have been the least fiscally conservative of all our Presidents. When the Republicans ran congress, no pork left unvetoed and no corporate ass went unkissed. Tax and spend is bad but borrow and spend is far worse. Their lack of meaningful oversight caused the mortgage crisis. Their aimless pointless tax breaks during wartime has put us more than twice as deeply into debt.
5. Obama is smarter than McCain he is and a far better speaker.
6. McCain talks about working with our allies, but Obama is not going to have a monkey on his back (Curious George the amazing wonder-chimp) when he meets with allies.
7. McCain worked with AirBus lobbyists to export 20,000 aerospace jobs from the USA. His campaign, while he is advocating for Airbus in the senate, has 3 AirBus lobbyists on staff.
8. McCain ACTIVELY sought the endorsements of two religious figures far worse than Rev Wright. Listening in the pews is one thing, having them on your campaign stage with "McCain for President" in big letters behind them is much worse.
9. Electing an African-American will do a lot toward healing deep divides in this country and will greatly enhance our stature in the world.

I have taken the time to engage in real discussion. If you answer with the cut and paste of yet another tired polemic, I will assume that you are just sniping rather than engaging in the "great debate" yourself.