I'm with you, Amos...

But it ain't you or me or any of the other folks here who like Obama it's, ahhhhhhh, the over-sensitive GG who feels compelled to mean-mouth Obama in just about every post, regardless of the nature of the thread...

I keep expecting GG to sabatoge my "Creasy Greens Recipe" thread with more anti-Obama venom...

Now, I haven't picked up my Washington Post yet but did check in here on the pudder and there are a couple point/counterpoint op eds in today's edition... I'm sure that bb will get around to posting them...

I haven't read them but I'm hopefull that these two pieces will frame the debate on Iraq...

The problem with Iraq isn't with what folks know as much as what alot of folks, who also vote, don't know or are unwilling to accept, like the linkage of alQeada to Saddam's regiem??? There are still people, who vote, that will go to the grave *believing* that because they have esentailly been brainwashed...

Let the discussion/debate continue... Heck, it's been going on now over 5 years during which most of the things that I, along witgh others, predicted would occur in Iraq during the selling of the invasion days have now come to pass... Not to blowing any horns here but in the context of a discussion of policy I think it is fair to remind folks now and then that the anti-war folks of 5 1/2 years ago have been shown to be the folks who were on the right side of history...

This is an important point... It's like baseball and you have two pitchers... They both say they can win but one is 0-9 and the other is 9-0... I believe that the manager is going to have more confidence in starting the 9-0 pitcher over the other feller...
So, from my perspective, we anti-war folks here who have been here wrestling with the neocons are the pitcher wioth the 9-0 record... IN other words, the neocons will have to put i a lotta overtime here to have any level opf credibilty... This is an important point that shouldn't be lost in this discussion...

B~