My thread title is based on the ones here about McCain- To be truely fair, I SHOULD have made it "Obama- Liar or just Ignorant" But I think better of Obama than that- he is using bits from the party "talking point" book without checking them as well as he should- which ALL the candidates have been guilty of.

As for which side is using it more, THAT depends on which side you look at. From MY prospective, the comments about Bush's military service are as much "swiftboating" as any about Kerry.

Yet you seem comfortable in making them, wehen the evidence is just as poor- ie, opinions of people who were around at the time. You can't decide it is wrong to let the opinions of those in the same service count against Bush, but NOT against Kerry.

Not if you want to pretend you have any desire for the truth.