Can't fault that logic Kendell, I watch the video of what he went through in Saigon and I feel one way. I listen to all of the good arguments against war and feel another. McCain is a much better man than Bush. And really I would have no problem with bases in Iraq if the Iraqis would welcome them. McCain said there is no problem if Americans aren't dying. But I don't think that is the case. I think one hundred years in Iraq would likely be one hundred years of fighting. If Americans aren't dying there because of the presence of US troops, some one will be.