There may be, I just haven't listened to them, so I don't know whether Wright is more Woodson than DuBois, or more Ellison than Elijah Muhammed.

Black nationalism, especially black separtist nationalism, has a very old pedigree. There are the black nationalist Christian emigrationists and the black nationalist Muslim emigrationists...

It is complicated, and I think, CarolC, you might be looking for something I said to make it easy to label me racist.

Which I am, BTW. Just like everyone else born and raised in the US, and most every single person who ever found their way to our borders, is racist.

Thing is, I know it and admit readily to it. Because seeing your own shadows with honesty makes you self-aware, which is way more than half the battle.