Thanks Mick. You see what passes for rational argument form some folks.

Bobert. I suspect that criminals will always be armed. By definition, they do NOT obey the law(s). So where is the sense in disarming their intended victims? All we want is a fighting chance to protect our lives and the lives of our families.

It is the law abiding citizen that consents to play by the rules. Why put her or him in a "no-win" situation? Responsible gun ownership is what I advocate. You don't leave weapons or ammo lying around where children or the uneducated can reach them. If you assume the responsibilities of citizenship and agree to live peaceably and lawfully with your neighbors and countrymen then this extends down to the exercise of your rights, ALL of your rights. We don't phone in bomb threats because we have the freedom of speech, we don't go around shooting people because we have the right to carry arms. We don't let people search us without a warrant (fly anywhere lately") and so on. It is a question of personal responsibility. And when someone insists on being irresponsible then the law steps in to protect us from such a one.