Diane (and others) I'd be interested to know how style and context fit into your idea of "professionalism". For example, take two professional folk artistes: Eliza Carthy and Jim Eldon 'The Brid Fiddler'. Both hail from roughly the same are (the East Riding), both are steeped in the musical tradition of that area, both play the fiddle. Eliza is polished, sonorous and would probably be what the general public would expect if they were paying to hear a folk artiste. Jim, who earns a large proportion of his livelihood playing on the Bridlington pleasure boats, is, by comparison, much rougher and more 'down to earth' in his style. Mr Parris would probably refer to this as ghastly caterwauling but it could be considered much truer to the tradition than Eliza's style. Same material; differnt approach. Who is the more "professional"?