Their is a range of venues, small room singaround, small folk club, large folk club with PA, small concert venues, medium and large venues, tents and big tents at festivals.

Because of the floor singer tradition some people feel they can sing anywhere. Generally a good thing. What is acceptable in small venues, however, is probably not at larger venues. Well managed events manage this.

We seem to enjoy rowing at opposite ends of this spectrum.

The people who gave us our tradition would probably be at home in the small singaround. "Tradarts" seems to demand a much higher standard of performance. Generally a good thing. Lets try to separate what we and my friends can do in a small room from Shrewsbury Festival.