Sorry to move away from the fascinating discuss of your bottom, but Snail, you shouldn't be so quick to assume that those who don't subscribe to your viewpoint are "doing (nothing) to promote folk music (and) sitting at home whingeing" - unless of course you know them and know what they're doing or not doing. They may have all sorts they are working on but are simply not at a stage to discuss them on a public forum yet. Like I said earlier, there is more than one way to skin a cat and there might be some heavy duty cat skinning going on behind the scenes.

Sorry to be so gnomic about this - I'm sworn to secrecy.