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Thread #110179   Message #2314721
Posted By: Slag
13-Apr-08 - 10:04 PM
Thread Name: BS: Debate: NRA good or Evil?
Subject: RE: BS: Debate: NRA good or Evil?
Bill D, What kind of argument is:

"As I have pointed out before, the Bill of Rights is old. Especially the part about 'bearing arms'. I cannot imagine it being written that way knowing what we do now about society and considering advances in modern arms." ?

Wheels are "old". Shall we stop using them? What a ludricrous statement! Brrr.

"The Bill of Rights ENUMERATES our inalienable rights. It does NOT create them." To which you wrote:

"Such an interesting idea....it is very easy to argue that it does create them. Why is not a list of 'inalienable rights' just an opinion of one group of men at one point in history?"

Well, yes, I guess that it was just the opinion of one group of men at a point in history. It was that OPINION and all that followed it that established the GREATEST NATION the world has seen to date. It is THAT opinion which protects your ability to make such hare-brained statements. You ought to be thankful for the opinion that:

"We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with CERTAIN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, THAT AMONG THESE ARE LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS-That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent from the Governed..."

A "right" does not have to be spelled out. You have the right to be here because you ARE here. You have a right to breath the air and drink the water. You have the right to protect your life. The fact that these rights are written out is not what establishes them. We hold these Truths to be SELF-EVIDENT, SELF-EVIDENT!

God help us all and save us all from those who would see our rights as just some old idea or opinion that has had its day.